KMD Digital Journalism 2010

http://twitter.com/msurman/status/16547018921

that "journo4techies" thing sounds mighty interesting :)

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hmm, i probably shouldn't be drinking coffee at 2 in the morning.

hello

hey there

how are you

Sleepy! Yourself?

oh yeas

at least you have coffee

I feel like I know forever. I read all your posts. :)

I meant I feel like I know you

hah, thanks! but i'm afraid my posts are nowhere near as good as some other people's

tell me about it.... I am left sometimes scratching my head

have you decided about your project already?

well, hopefully, after this course is done, the quality of my insight will be a little closer to these guys'

yeah, i'm going with Alan Webb's project

how about you?

still wondering....

what are your options?

either join some of the projects ( Alan Webb's or Nadir's)

or simply go for mine which is not very original I am afraid

that is help a senegalese group of programmers that are educating african youth to use open source software

like gimp, python tec

etc

hmm, as a developer myself i wonder if developers would be any good as educators :)

lol

but that's a good project idea.

i'm pretty sure alan's project is going to be very difficult for me since i have zero formal journalism background, but it's pretty ambitions, a lot to learn i think

well at least you are a programmer.... I would like to go in the past to learn programming

not economics

grass is always greener on the other side

absolutely

woops, joi's speaking on ustream already

hi Alan!

anyone want to speak about their projects for the class?

I'd be happy to

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r u on skype?

yes, just getting it started. AlanCWebb

please give us your skype id

joi will call

logged on, should be able to find me now

what is the

what is your skype id?

AlanCWebb

I am joichi

Gueorgui, can you help me pronounce your name?

i sent a connect request

did you get it?

strange

Geh-or-ghee I suppose? I don't know phonetics :)

try alternate username

AlanWebbb

you may have to accept my invitations to connect, do you see them?

you got it right.

great, glad to hear

thanks for the help

AlanCWebb: added you on skype (gueorgui_t)

Hi janak I couldn't make to the class but I am watching at Ustream.

@Gustavo ok...but it goes in one ear and out the other. still not technically awake yet

that's what i did last week but it was not so clear

@seokjoo_han don't encourage truancy and tardiness!

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JoiIto: Well, it helps to have a few thousands followers for that (re: Twitter)

*Sneaks in late after tying up tomato plants.* Hi!

I'll post the log of this irc chat later tomorrow, i have issues with my Mac, now I'm here from my iPad

Her twitter is awesome

http://twitter.com/HirokoTabuchi

@gustavo my twitter name is jbjbanjb

pretty awesome if u ask me

couldn't find your twitter janak!

Somebody should create a Twitter list with all the participants in this course

Hmmm, we should have such lists under @p2pu for all courses

I do follow some politicians on Twitter and FB, I wonder though how many of them really Tweet personally...

sorry Gustavo, it's actually jbjbandjb

very complex issue in japan, janak... not even the tv has a free voice here... getting better in recent years though...

@marcos is it more freedom or ways to distract us from seeking the truth through drole contents

@marcos at least the world cup doesn't lie

hahahah... but referees make mistakes....

following you there now, "george clooney"

Here's a Twitter list made by @1rick: http://twitter.com/1rick/p2pu

doesn't twitter make journalism old really fast?

not journalism, but the news itself

Yep. I'd say avoid tweeting "Breaking News! xxx" when you personally hear about something. If it's an hour old, you look slow.

any questions for Hiroko?

For Hiroko: how the newspaper deal with the tweeter competition to be the fastest or the first one to tell a story?

Yup, great book.

For Hiroko (or others): any tips one how to use twitter to find new sources outside of your network, particularly if you don't have a large network of followers personally?

good question @AlanCWebb

Yeah, good question.

i'll try to get Joi's attention

thanks for the questions

no problem, thanks!

seems like he is not looking my way on purpose...neglect: staple of my childhood

thanks janak!!!

@gustavo wurd! just retweet me always

thanks!

@alancwebb u got it boss. good question. you to dore.

@janak, back at ya, and glad to help you confront repressed childhood memories

re objective coverage: Is the mainstream media in Japan in any way dependent on government money?

... or does the pressure come from other mechanisms?

(job security, social pressure...?)

no class after janak

use the room freely

I think it's job security, the old way is that if you (the journalist) isn't part of an official "press club", you don't get access. And to be a member of those "press clubs", you have to be careful with what you write.

@gueorgui Sounds a bit like criticism of the U.S. media in Washington, D.C. and sometimes New York. Jay Rosen calls them the "church of the savvy."

But there must be some kind of underlying consensus, that this is actually good for ... society? Public moral? Something?

thanks dore. can you also check if i have a golf lesson today?

Something like that, I suppose. Maybe a good question for Hiroko-san.

@janak just checked. today is your yoga lesson.

thanks dore, what the hell am i gonna do w/my golf ****s?

clubs

hahahaha thanks for the support in the class janak