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Group C - Getting Started
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Hello, Group C!
Please get started on the following tasks, intended to help you get to know your fellow group members and get accustomed to communicating online. Please use this Forum to get started on the following tasks ASAP.
- Introduce yourself to your classmates and explain why you are taking this course.
- Decide who will be responsible for submitting each of the group responses to the Case Scenarios.
- Figure out which technology will work best for your group to connect and collaborate throughout this course. It may be a good idea to “meet” online at agreed times to discuss each week’s discussion questions or Case Scenario. (You are free to use the P2PU Forum for all of your group discussions if you think that will work best. However, there are numerous other technologies out there that provide real time/live communication capabilities. See the link for Communication Tools under Course Materials for some suggestions.)
- Jishnu, Lila, & Tara
Hello. My name is Joe Jasek. I recently graduated from Duquesne University where I studied secondary education, English, and theater. I am taking this course because I want to better understand what I can legally use in my classroom while keeping a special eye on what I can do with technology and excerpts without shorting the original artist. I also believe that at least someone within any group of teachers should have an understanding of copyright. Theater has its own copyright and production rights grey areas that I want to understand better.
I am capable and willing to use the technology J,L,&T listed in the introduction, but I do think most of our communication and collaboration can be done with Gmail, Skype, and the P2PU forums. Any comments or ideas?
Hi I am Martha Rans a lawyer/copyright educator in Canada (artistslegaloutreach.ca) I look forward to conversations - not very familiar with online tools (I'm more analogue than digital) but have skype and like the idea of connecting on that.
Martha, My attempts to email you through P2PU are failing. Please contact me at jasekj919@gmail.com
I have the case scenario and assignments done. Do we want to use email or Google Docs to compare and share? I think getting everyone together online at the same time may prove difficult, and this method, especially Google Docs, will allow frequent communication without pinning our group members to a specific time.
Hi. My name is Brylie Oxley. I am taking this course because I am interested in learning how Copyright applies to teachers and students. I am eager to learn about Fair Use, the TEACH act, and other subjects that we will be exploring.
Are you both interested in asynchronous communications? I prefer an open platform such as Wikiversity or these forums for that purpose.
Yes, I think asynchronous communication works best. My schedule varies day to day, and I don't know how many time zones we represent. Do you want to get a spot at http://wiki.p2pu.org? It's a wiki associated with P2PU. These forums can work, but for sharing or editing bigger projects I think we need something more. It looks to have a similar editing program to Wikiversity.
BTW, I thought that Case Scenario 1 was due this past Tuesday, not this Tuesday, so I apologize if my communications seemed confusing.
I created a wiki page for the first case study.
http://wiki.p2pu.org/GroupCCaseStudy1
If I could get on it that would be great - but I can't. Anyway, Origin of Species is in the Public Domain right?
Hi since I can't get on the wiki I will comment that origin of Species in in public domain because Darwin dead for a long time - though various reversions may be protected by copyright. Also the last two would be protected by copyright unless her employer had a prior agreement that stipulated otherwise. I say this notwithstanding that some of her work may not be "artistic etc" under a very narrow interpretation if that makes sense.
Martha--what happens when you try to go to that wiki page? It should be publicly available.
I have tried twice now - set up an account but could not comment
Thanks Brylie for updating it but I would add something to the NYT article and query whether it would be fair dealing?
Brylie and Joe are you there?
I am here, sorry for the delay in response.
Do you want to divide the scenario?
Lets each review all three scenarios to see how we interpret Fair Use :-)
Sorry for the delay, I'm here now. Was in another group and could not find contact. Courtney Burken, athletic training educator, and trying to make sure that I know the rules and what is and is not acceptable fair use so I don't unknowingly use it incorrectly- authors should get paid... What do you guys need me to do to catch up?
Hi Courtney :-)
Lets take a look at the three scenarios from week three.
Scenario 1: An English teacher prints a classroom handout, and includes one paragraph from a book to show pithy writing. Is this fair use? Which factors weigh in favor of fair use, and which against? What facts lead you to your conclusion?
Favoring Fair Use:
* Teaching
* Criticism
* Comment
* Transformative
* Restricted access
* Small quantity of a published work
* Not central or significant to entire work
* Few copies made
Scenario 2: An English teacher makes photocopies of one chapter of an out-of-print textbook on English Composition for each of her students. She keeps a master photocopy on file for future use. Is this a fair use? Which factors weigh in favor of fair use, and which against? What facts lead you to your conclusion? Is the outcome different or the same as Scenario 1? Why or why not?
Factors in favor of Fair Use:
* Out-of-print book
* Teaching purposes
* Scholarship (master copy)
* Productive use
* Factual
* Small quantity (depending on how many chapters there are.)
* Amount is appropriate for the specific educational purpose
* Few copies made
* No significant market impact
Scenario 3: A textbook publishing company finds an excellent website by an English teacher made publically available on the Internet. The publisher copies the website word-for-word in a new edition of an English composition textbook and gives the teacher credit. Is this a fair use? Which factors weigh in favor of fair use, and which against? Is the outcome the same or different from Scenario 1 and Scenario 2? Why or why not in each case?
Factors against Fair Use:
* Commercial activity
* Profiting from the use
* Entire work used
* Portion used is central to the "heart of the work"
* Many copies made
* Repeated use
Hi Brylie and Courtney I am not sure how this is supposed to work in any event (I am not a technical person) For what it's worth my answers to the above are yes, yes, no because the use goes beyond what is permissible based on the 4 fold test particularly given the commercial implications. I think whenever you have a use that potentially has such an application so for example the last scenario in the assignment also would go beyond a fair use. That is the one where she posts the video of the class on youtube verbatim making it accessible (and thus reproducible beyond the educational sphere). It seems to me that philosophically for the use to be fair it has to be of educational value. Though I perhaps may be taking too narrow a view coming as I do from Canada.