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jhweitzmann 2010-06-06T21:43:18+0000

hey there, haven't used IRC in a decade :)

JoiIto 2010-06-06T23:36:59+0000

let me know if you see the UStream

Giri 2010-06-06T23:54:55+0000

Hi all can you see the USTREAM video? all I am getting is a spinning circle.

jhweitzmann 2010-06-06T23:55:33+0000

likewise

gueorgui 2010-06-06T23:55:51+0000

just blank screen here

jhweitzmann 2010-06-06T23:55:56+0000

spinning at impressive speed, though

JoiIto 2010-06-06T23:56:04+0000

yeah, trying to get it working

jhweitzmann 2010-06-06T23:56:44+0000

the one from the car is there ...

dangillmor 2010-06-06T23:56:48+0000

yes, faster than normal spinning circle.

nseki 2010-06-06T23:57:17+0000

still nothing is cast

Giri 2010-06-06T23:59:22+0000

lol! it's spinning very rapidly here too, maybe they want to hypnotise us?

gueorgui 2010-06-06T23:59:45+0000

Aw, I'm jealous, nothing's spinning for me!

Giri 2010-06-07T00:00:31+0000

he he gueorgui, refresh is the key word here my friend

janak 2010-06-07T00:01:26+0000

hi this is janak. we are having some trouble w/Ustream in Tokyo

Giri 2010-06-07T00:01:33+0000

@gueorgui did you get my mail?

janak 2010-06-07T00:01:52+0000

sorry for the delay, please be patient

Giri 2010-06-07T00:02:24+0000

thanks for the update

gueorgui 2010-06-07T00:02:45+0000

Giri: you sent me an email?

gueorgui 2010-06-07T00:02:50+0000

Didn't get anything yet

gueorgui 2010-06-07T00:02:57+0000

What address did you use?

janak 2010-06-07T00:03:00+0000

@Ustream is up!

JoiIto 2010-06-07T00:03:03+0000

Ustream should be up

JoiIto 2010-06-07T00:03:05+0000

please reload

Giri 2010-06-07T00:03:10+0000

yes its up

dangillmor 2010-06-07T00:03:14+0000

seeing joi now

nseki 2010-06-07T00:03:38+0000

hearing voice

Giri 2010-06-07T00:03:41+0000

I mailed you on the address at the profile in course

dangillmor 2010-06-07T00:04:19+0000

i think i lectured in that room last year, but classrooms all look alike...

cofffffeeeee 2010-06-07T00:07:37+0000

o_0

Giri 2010-06-07T00:07:53+0000

Oh no!! we are being logged, what you say here can be used as evidence against you in acourt of law :-D

cofffffeeeee 2010-06-07T00:08:09+0000

lawl

cofffffeeeee 2010-06-07T00:08:25+0000

:D

Giri 2010-06-07T00:08:52+0000

The vid is buffering too often??

gueorgui 2010-06-07T00:09:09+0000

Giri: definitely didn't get anything yet. Try gueorgui@gmail.com ?

cofffffeeeee 2010-06-07T00:09:15+0000

Very nice English for a KMD class :D

Stian 2010-06-07T00:09:17+0000

Does the digital journalism course have a canonical tag? (for twitter etc?)

JoiIto 2010-06-07T00:09:32+0000

#kmdp2puDJ

Stian 2010-06-07T00:09:41+0000

Joi: Thanks!

cofffffeeeee 2010-06-07T00:09:47+0000

what, we gotta listen to class, chat AND follow twitter at the same time? o_0

jhweitzmann 2010-06-07T00:09:54+0000

still nothing here :(

Stian 2010-06-07T00:10:22+0000

Yeah, IRC is great for internal conversation, Twitter is good for sharing insights with the world (our external networks)

janak 2010-06-07T00:10:28+0000

anyone having problems w/ustream

rick_ 2010-06-07T00:10:32+0000

no problem with video here

janak 2010-06-07T00:10:52+0000

delia?

Stian 2010-06-07T00:11:06+0000

I'm also from P2PU.

mikecaulfield 2010-06-07T00:11:22+0000

Stian --- nice to see you again!

nseki 2010-06-07T00:12:18+0000

LOL

cofffffeeeee 2010-06-07T00:12:23+0000

>_>

jhweitzmann 2010-06-07T00:12:55+0000

I'll reboot, maybe it's about my firefox ... c ya soon (hopefully)

nadhirus 2010-06-07T00:13:29+0000

hi everybody

dangillmor 2010-06-07T00:13:32+0000

now everyone has to be polite

janak 2010-06-07T00:13:42+0000

dan, can u hear us?

nseki 2010-06-07T00:13:43+0000

yes, sir!

dangillmor 2010-06-07T00:13:45+0000

yes

dangillmor 2010-06-07T00:14:07+0000

say again?

janak 2010-06-07T00:14:27+0000

please introduce yopurself, dan

janak 2010-06-07T00:14:43+0000

he has not left the building

Jan_ 2010-06-07T00:14:48+0000

yet

janak 2010-06-07T00:15:14+0000

Dan, please type your introduction in the irc chat

dangillmor 2010-06-07T00:15:58+0000

I'm Dan Gillmor, head of the Knight Center for Digital Media Entrepreneurship at Arizona State University (and blogger, author, etc.)

janak 2010-06-07T00:16:02+0000

one line intros from all non-keio students and staff please

Giri 2010-06-07T00:16:26+0000

May i suggest a lapel mic next time as the audio seems to be echoing too much

mikecaulfield 2010-06-07T00:17:03+0000

I'm Mike Caulfield from Keene, NH, where I am an instructional designer and a sometime citizen journalist and activist.

Stian 2010-06-07T00:17:25+0000

I'm part of the P2PU core group. Won't be officially participating, but very interested in auditing, and following along. Also very interested in having all students reflecting upon their experiences in the course, and how it and the P2PU platform can be improved, as we go along (both online and Keio students!)

JoiIto 2010-06-07T00:17:49+0000

roger on the capel mic. Maybe I should switch to a shotgun mic on the camera... let me go do that now...

JoiIto 2010-06-07T00:17:52+0000

let me know if it is better

Stian 2010-06-07T00:17:54+0000

(I'm Stian Haklev - http://reganmian.net/blog/about-me)

Giri 2010-06-07T00:18:16+0000

Thanks

janak 2010-06-07T00:19:36+0000

can everyone out there hear the students

janak 2010-06-07T00:19:51+0000

?

MikeChelen 2010-06-07T00:19:52+0000

some of them

nseki 2010-06-07T00:19:59+0000

only some

rick_ 2010-06-07T00:20:00+0000

I'm Rick Martin - http://www.1rick.com/blog/about/

Stian 2010-06-07T00:20:10+0000

very difficult. a lot of blowing in the microphone.

Lena 2010-06-07T00:20:24+0000

hello, i'm Lena Hofman, a master student at Maastricht University, Netherlands, i'm studying Science, technology and society studies, am originally from Slovenia, my background in Social informatics

mikecaulfield 2010-06-07T00:20:38+0000

Oh here's my about -- good idea: http://mikecaulfield.com/about-2/

nseki 2010-06-07T00:20:52+0000

I think it is better to have a fixed microphone at a podium and people come to talk

gueorgui 2010-06-07T00:21:37+0000

I'm Gueorgui Tcherednitchenko, web designer/developer, co-founder of localrepublic.com and photographer. Living in Berlin, Germany, originally from Russia. My website's at http://gueorgui.net/.

janak 2010-06-07T00:22:05+0000

anyone seen delia?

janak 2010-06-07T00:22:09+0000

delia, where u at?

dangillmor 2010-06-07T00:22:39+0000

(my about page: http://dangillmor.com/about )

rick_ 2010-06-07T00:24:54+0000

a twitter list of participants might be useful too

janak 2010-06-07T00:25:32+0000

@jbjbandjb

Stian 2010-06-07T00:26:27+0000

For the people on the P2PU site, in addition to posting introductions in the forum, it would be great if you added some info to your profile page as well. That's linked from your name everytime you post something.

janak 2010-06-07T00:27:00+0000

http://p2pu.org/node/3838/document/3885

janak 2010-06-07T00:27:11+0000

recommended reading list for the course

nadhirus 2010-06-07T00:28:16+0000

Hi,

rick_ 2010-06-07T00:28:41+0000

Jake on twitter twitter.com/jakeadelstein

janak 2010-06-07T00:29:44+0000

anyone from p2pu around?

nadhirus 2010-06-07T00:29:48+0000

my twitter ID: nadhirus

Stian 2010-06-07T00:29:49+0000

I'm one of the co-founders

Giri 2010-06-07T00:29:58+0000

I am having vid re buffer problems (aka glitchy vid) anyone else?

Stian 2010-06-07T00:30:04+0000

More or less :)

Stian 2010-06-07T00:30:13+0000

Stiyan

Giri 2010-06-07T00:30:26+0000

Hi Stian!

MikeChelen 2010-06-07T00:30:29+0000

Giri: try refreshing stream (arrows on lower left) or page

gueorgui 2010-06-07T00:32:59+0000

Yup!

mikecaulfield 2010-06-07T00:33:02+0000

yes

Giri 2010-06-07T00:33:03+0000

Thanks Mike

Lena 2010-06-07T00:33:03+0000

yes

janak 2010-06-07T00:33:16+0000

project suggestions?

janak 2010-06-07T00:33:33+0000

here comes Dave...

gueorgui 2010-06-07T00:34:19+0000

Having a bit of a hard time hearing what Dave's saying

janak 2010-06-07T00:35:08+0000

Dave, great start..........

gustavodore 2010-06-07T00:35:10+0000

I am here now, finnaly, chrome wasn't working, but firefox is fine

gustavodore 2010-06-07T00:35:15+0000

thanks daivd

gustavodore 2010-06-07T00:35:18+0000

david

Stian 2010-06-07T00:35:35+0000

@janak: Not very familiar with ustream, but I set up a channel and I am broadcasting now here: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/stian-s-p2pu-channel. Is this helpful?

janak 2010-06-07T00:36:33+0000

checking now

janak 2010-06-07T00:36:39+0000

switiching to twitter

Giri 2010-06-07T00:37:31+0000

I can see you stian

Yushi 2010-06-07T00:37:47+0000

I can see you too.

janak 2010-06-07T00:38:12+0000

i think you are ok on ustream Stian

janak 2010-06-07T00:38:36+0000

when Joi is done speaking I'll ask him to switch to you

mikecaulfield 2010-06-07T00:39:57+0000

I see you stian!

Giri 2010-06-07T00:41:23+0000

I can but only barely

MikeChelen 2010-06-07T00:41:25+0000

can hear stian on his channel

nseki 2010-06-07T00:41:32+0000

To obtain your blog, please go to http://p2pu.org/node/3838/chat

nseki 2010-06-07T00:41:45+0000

And follow the instruction there

nseki 2010-06-07T00:41:58+0000

oh url is wrong

JoiIto 2010-06-07T00:42:04+0000

stian, can you turn up the audio a bit more?

JoiIto 2010-06-07T00:42:06+0000

it's very low

mikecaulfield 2010-06-07T00:42:36+0000

great!

nseki 2010-06-07T00:42:44+0000

To get your blog, please go to http://kmd.ito.com/dj-2010/ and follow the instruction.

Giri 2010-06-07T00:42:52+0000

Awesome Stian

Giri 2010-06-07T00:43:48+0000

double audio!!!!!

JoiIto 2010-06-07T00:44:25+0000

turned audio off here for this part so hopefully echo is gone

Giri 2010-06-07T00:44:34+0000

mute the audio from the joi end please!!!

janak 2010-06-07T00:44:38+0000

Stian's Ustream reminds me of Charlie from Charlie's Angels

janak 2010-06-07T00:44:44+0000

we never actually see him

JoiIto 2010-06-07T00:44:45+0000

it should be muted now

Giri 2010-06-07T00:45:08+0000

lol janak

gustavodore 2010-06-07T00:45:22+0000

Valew Giri!

janak 2010-06-07T00:45:25+0000

can eberyone hear Joi?

Stian 2010-06-07T00:45:29+0000

Can't hear Joi.

MikeChelen 2010-06-07T00:45:30+0000

nope

Make 2010-06-07T00:45:33+0000

sound isn't working

mikecaulfield 2010-06-07T00:45:37+0000

I can't

conco02 2010-06-07T00:45:38+0000

audio?

nseki 2010-06-07T00:45:39+0000

no. muted

Giri 2010-06-07T00:45:44+0000

he muted the audio remember!!!

dangillmor 2010-06-07T00:45:46+0000

lost audio and then video

Stian 2010-06-07T00:45:56+0000

yep

nseki 2010-06-07T00:45:57+0000

now working

MikeChelen 2010-06-07T00:45:57+0000

can hear now

mikecaulfield 2010-06-07T00:45:58+0000

yes better thx

Giri 2010-06-07T00:45:59+0000

joi on

gustavodore 2010-06-07T00:46:06+0000

Eu sei que �� de noite no Brasil, mas �� s�� acender a luz. =)

gustavodore 2010-06-07T00:46:58+0000

Giri, where are you organizing this course in Brazil?

Stian 2010-06-07T00:47:31+0000

Delia is on the UStream chat.

Giri 2010-06-07T00:47:43+0000

nope I am from India

janak 2010-06-07T00:48:26+0000

Delia, can you please join the IRC chat? Can someone ask her to join p2pu?

gustavodore 2010-06-07T00:48:48+0000

mistaken giri by the guy who just spoke at class

gustavodore 2010-06-07T00:48:53+0000

sorry giri

Giri 2010-06-07T00:49:07+0000

hey no probs :-)

Giri 2010-06-07T00:49:43+0000

Stian offlin

Stian 2010-06-07T00:50:30+0000

Giri: Nothing more to say :) Delia should be coming soon.

Giri 2010-06-07T00:52:36+0000

Lucky Delia

dangillmor 2010-06-07T00:52:48+0000

can't seem to get the video back...

gueorgui 2010-06-07T00:53:40+0000

I see the video.

Lena 2010-06-07T00:53:42+0000

i see the video fine

JoiIto 2010-06-07T00:53:43+0000

Dan, I think it's just you

Stian 2010-06-07T00:53:43+0000

works

dbelder 2010-06-07T00:53:44+0000

i can see the video

mikecaulfield 2010-06-07T00:53:45+0000

i see it

JoiIto 2010-06-07T00:53:46+0000

I think you need to reload

janak 2010-06-07T00:53:54+0000

no prob in tokyo

Giri 2010-06-07T00:53:59+0000

I see it too

Stian 2010-06-07T00:55:07+0000

Hi Delia.

janak 2010-06-07T00:56:48+0000

Hello Delia, please let us know when your UStream is ready.

nseki 2010-06-07T00:57:28+0000

I am leaving now. NYC is 9pm Sunday night, so I am going out for dinner. Enjoy the class, all!

Giri 2010-06-07T00:57:41+0000

bye nseki

Laurian 2010-06-07T00:58:09+0000

time

delian2000 2010-06-07T00:59:07+0000

I am on delian 2000, have a ustream p2pu digital journalism user name delian 2000

mariarosa2009 2010-06-07T01:00:10+0000

Hi. Good night to everybody. I��m following the presentation and I find it very interesting although really I��m first to try getting familiar with the resources and hopefully soon I will be able to participate more actively.

janak 2010-06-07T01:01:03+0000

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/p2pu ----> Delia live!

Yushi 2010-06-07T01:07:07+0000

hi Delia, I'm going to try to put you on as cohost to Joi's stream once he is done with the CC part

JoiIto 2010-06-07T01:08:44+0000

you're up now

Giri 2010-06-07T01:09:04+0000

wow that quick Delia

JoiIto 2010-06-07T01:09:05+0000

yes, you are

JoiIto 2010-06-07T01:09:15+0000

go for it ;-)

gueorgui 2010-06-07T01:09:55+0000

Can't really hear Delia here.

JoiIto 2010-06-07T01:10:07+0000

are you tuned into her channel?

delian2000 2010-06-07T01:10:12+0000

that was my test

Giri 2010-06-07T01:10:12+0000

cant't hear delia

gueorgui 2010-06-07T01:10:15+0000

Oh! My bad

delian2000 2010-06-07T01:10:16+0000

alright so you can't me

Giri 2010-06-07T01:10:17+0000

What's her channel?

JoiIto 2010-06-07T01:10:21+0000

I turned audio off... just go directly to her chan

JoiIto 2010-06-07T01:10:23+0000

we can hear you

gueorgui 2010-06-07T01:10:27+0000

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/p2pu

janak 2010-06-07T01:10:28+0000

we can see you and hear you delia

JoiIto 2010-06-07T01:10:33+0000

it's just not on the class stream

janak 2010-06-07T01:10:34+0000

no problem whatsoever

JoiIto 2010-06-07T01:10:37+0000

you're ready to go delia

JoiIto 2010-06-07T01:10:38+0000

yes

mariarosa2009 2010-06-07T01:10:39+0000

I can��t hear to Delia

janak 2010-06-07T01:11:11+0000

@mariarosa2009 i think it is your pc/connection

janak 2010-06-07T01:11:20+0000

we are fine in tokyo

MikeChelen 2010-06-07T01:11:24+0000

there is often 3-5 sec delay with ustream

Giri 2010-06-07T01:11:43+0000

I can hear delia

mariarosa2009 2010-06-07T01:12:08+0000

I��m hearing to Delia now....really is my connection.

Giri 2010-06-07T01:12:09+0000

Thanks Delia!

MikeChelen 2010-06-07T01:12:11+0000

yeah her stream is fine

janak 2010-06-07T01:12:20+0000

please go to Delia's channel for her audio

janak 2010-06-07T01:12:26+0000

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/p2pu

gueorgui 2010-06-07T01:13:55+0000

By the way, I registered at http://kmd.ito.com/dj-2010/ and didn't receive the confirmation email yet.

Giri 2010-06-07T01:14:02+0000

Thanks fo that delia

janak 2010-06-07T01:14:17+0000

please go back to Joi's Ustream

Giri 2010-06-07T01:14:55+0000

What about BEKKA?

Giri 2010-06-07T01:16:24+0000

Ah ok

Giri 2010-06-07T01:16:30+0000

Phillip?

delian2000 2010-06-07T01:18:40+0000

thanks- feel free to email any issues to p2pu or suggestions on improvements

Laurian 2010-06-07T01:22:10+0000

FYI, I will post later to the p2pu site a log of this IRC channel

dangillmor 2010-06-07T01:23:04+0000

well, i can't find a way to make the video come back on my screen... hope next time!

dbelder 2010-06-07T01:25:08+0000

Thanks that was great

Giri 2010-06-07T01:25:13+0000

refresh the page dangillor

Giri 2010-06-07T01:25:43+0000

Thanks joito

delian2000 2010-06-07T01:25:46+0000

This looks great, I am going to check in each week when I can

Jan_ 2010-06-07T01:26:01+0000

Joi speaking about "professionalism" and how the professionals losing it - fact checking, ethics. However, the "professionalism" is I think also about knowing how to behave in the situations of friction. Many stories from the Turkish boats lately shows that...

delian2000 2010-06-07T01:26:23+0000

It has given me some ideas re creating some resources to support this course

delian2000 2010-06-07T01:26:37+0000

with a little help from some friends

Giri 2010-06-07T01:27:13+0000

Delia friends are where it's at :-)

nadhirus 2010-06-07T01:28:19+0000

thx joi

gueorgui 2010-06-07T01:28:29+0000

Thanks Joi.

Giri 2010-06-07T01:28:41+0000

ty Joi

JoiIto 2010-06-07T01:28:51+0000

thanks everyone

MikeChelen 2010-06-07T01:28:51+0000

interesting class, thanks

JoiIto 2010-06-07T01:28:57+0000

OK, time to follow up online!

Fatoubarry 2010-06-07T01:29:11+0000

Yep very interesting! Thanks a lot

dbelder 2010-06-07T01:29:21+0000

yes interesting class, thanks Joi

Lena 2010-06-07T01:29:21+0000

thanks Joi

mikecaulfield 2010-06-07T01:29:31+0000

I thought it was pretty exciting to be a part of

nadhirus 2010-06-07T01:29:43+0000

very interesting

Giri 2010-06-07T01:29:49+0000

@mike same here

dbelder 2010-06-07T01:30:13+0000

it's great the possibilities that are coming out in regards to the web and education.

mikecaulfield 2010-06-07T01:30:36+0000

of course, when you're at home you can use the tech problems as opportunities to microwave some popcorn.

Giri 2010-06-07T01:30:45+0000

lol

Fatoubarry 2010-06-07T01:30:49+0000

lol

dbelder 2010-06-07T01:30:56+0000

mmm popcorn.

Giri 2010-06-07T01:31:07+0000

buttered popcorn

Lena 2010-06-07T01:31:38+0000

i agree, it's nice you can eat snacks during a course

Giri 2010-06-07T01:32:15+0000

I made myself breakfast.

mikecaulfield 2010-06-07T01:32:41+0000

do people have ideas for projects?

Giri 2010-06-07T01:33:02+0000

Mike what kind of projrcts must they be?

mikecaulfield 2010-06-07T01:33:11+0000

Joi?

Giri 2010-06-07T01:33:16+0000

sorry for sounding so naive

Giri 2010-06-07T01:33:41+0000

I always have too many ideas, some direction?

JoiIto 2010-06-07T01:33:50+0000

hey

JoiIto 2010-06-07T01:34:01+0000

here are some ideas: http://p2pu.org/node/3838/document/3845

JoiIto 2010-06-07T01:34:06+0000

for projects

mikecaulfield 2010-06-07T01:34:36+0000

I was thinking maybe a wiki that broke down why education costs are rising?

Laurian 2010-06-07T01:34:51+0000

sample log of this channel (scroll down for today's date) http://gridinoc.name/cyber/jlog.html I'll trim it to today's session, format it nicer and post it on the p2pu site

Giri 2010-06-07T01:36:02+0000

Puurrfect Laurian.

mikecaulfield 2010-06-07T01:36:12+0000

I know there's been articles on that, but I've never seen anything really clear or interactive

Lena 2010-06-07T01:36:20+0000

are we going to get feedbacks on the proposals for project we had to write for course application?

dbelder 2010-06-07T01:37:05+0000

My initial thoughts came out of the oil disaster in the gulf right now. I live on the west coast of canada, was born and raised in alberta, and there are huge pipeline propasals right now that will bring hundreds of thousands of barrels of crude a day right to the mouth of very sensitive eco systems.

mikecaulfield 2010-06-07T01:37:43+0000

@dbelder I'd be interested in seeing that.

dbelder 2010-06-07T01:39:44+0000

my main interests tend to stem back to my home, issues around sustainability, and city planning, urban sprawl, and the environment. However I also come from a backgrounds in the art, and culture, and am starting communications degree in the fall with a focus on media.

dbelder 2010-06-07T01:39:54+0000

somehow in my head it all relates.

Lena 2010-06-07T01:40:18+0000

good night everyone (or good day), it's 3.45 am here and i'm off to bed

Lena 2010-06-07T01:40:23+0000

talk to you next time!

dbelder 2010-06-07T01:40:26+0000

good night.

Giri 2010-06-07T01:40:43+0000

good night lena

gueorgui 2010-06-07T01:42:02+0000

Good night -- almost 4am here in Berlin

Giri 2010-06-07T01:42:03+0000

dbelder that's a wonderful undertaking you are planning

Fatoubarry 2010-06-07T01:42:22+0000

Hi guys. Could you tell me if it's a group project or individual one? I missed half of the lecture :(

Giri 2010-06-07T01:42:30+0000

Good night gueorgui, see ya later

dbelder 2010-06-07T01:43:39+0000

thanks, it's a departure from the work I have been doing as of late. so it'll be a challenge anyway.

Giri 2010-06-07T01:44:21+0000

Fatouberry the final goal is "Create a published story as a team using the tools that the team finds are the most suitable for their particular story and publish it to the world and present it to the class.

dbelder 2010-06-07T01:45:29+0000

well I'm off too, have a good evening, morning, and afternoon.

Giri 2010-06-07T01:45:42+0000

Ok it's morning here and I better run along..

Fatoubarry 2010-06-07T01:46:00+0000

@Giri... thanks.

Laurian 2010-06-07T01:46:23+0000

I'll post the log on the forums, OK?

mikecaulfield 2010-06-07T01:47:04+0000

sounds great -- I'm heading off...

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