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Hi:  I'm Joe, and back for a second round of Collaborative Lesson Planning.  I feel I have a considerably clearer picture about what to do in this course, and with P2PU in general, this time around.  One key word among many is "structure".

A recent blog post about papers that I think applies even more strongly to lessons: http://gathatoulie.blogspot.com/2011/01/when-reviewing-or-writing-paper.html

Another blog post about a project started last time around that I'm going to continue working on with Charlie in parallel with this course: http://hyperreal-enterprises.posterous.com/paragogy-paper

With regard to this week's assignment: Some very tentative notes for a rather grandiose book project I've had in mind for a while that hasn't yet taken off: http://metameso.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl/How_to_hack_it_monograph

My thoughts at the moment:  Although I think I have some clue, I want to emphasise the tentative aspect of that.  I'm reminded of a story (I think this was retold in the film "Pi") about the guy who went to a zen master and acted like he already knew everything, but still wanted some kind of advice.  The zen master made tea, give his visitor a cup, and kept pouring long after the cup was full.  The guy said: hey, the cup is full, enough already!    The fact that you can't add to a full cup was the lesson.

At present, "emptiness" is especially represented by the fact that right now I have precisely zero lessons ready to share with this group.  I liked Charlie's suggestion that I work on a lesson that treats the question "What is a paragogy?" (in other words, what is an adequate theory of peer-to-peer or peer-based learning?).  Will get on that asap!

Looking forward to the next six weeks :)

Joe

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Joe Corneli
Thu, 2011-01-27 22:47

Here is a short essay by Benjamin Mako Hill ("Mako", pronounced "Make-O"): http://mako.cc/writing/hill-when_free_software_isnt_better.html

Final sentence: The benefits of collaboration become something to understand, support, and work towards, rather than something to take for granted in the face of evidence that refuses to conform to ideology.

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Joe Corneli
Fri, 2011-01-28 23:04

Some evidence that we need a new theory of peer-to-peer learning:
http://open-governance-and-learning.posterous.com/peer-to-peer-learning

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Joe Corneli
Sun, 2011-01-30 16:23

I'm creating a little workspace to talk about "implementing paragogy" (specifically I'm thinking about how to implement it in my courses, but I'd welcome input from others about other courses).

Here - http://piratepad.net/implementing-paragogy

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marjorie king
Sun, 2011-01-30 19:03

Joe: Welcome back. I will be interested in reading about your concept "paragogy". Dr. King

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Charles Danoff
Wed, 2011-02-02 07:36

Joe,

Like Dr. King, I welcome you back.

I enjoyed reading the book notes/outline. I think the connections between ESR, Polya and paragogical principles might be a good lead-in to a lesson about paragogy? Lead-in with both/either ESR & Polya, then go to paragogy?

Also, enjoyed the Mako article, even more so than what you quoted, the parts about how most of the work going on in Free Software right now are done by individuals working alone. Reminds me of my efforts in trying to make a usable resource out of my lesson plans from China http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Reviewing_My_Semester_with_the_FUN_WITH_E... (though to be fair I have gotten support, just haven't followed through enough to make it worth other's while ... maybe?).

Finally, the posterous piece was intriguing, perhaps hungy ghosts could be useful as well for your paragogy 101 lesson?

p.s. I put a couple notes in the implementing paragogy pad.

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Joe Corneli
Wed, 2011-02-02 20:05

Oops, late...

I DECLARE THAT I WILL POST ONLY WORK I OWN THE COPYRIGHT TO, OR MATERIAL THAT I OTHERWISE HAVE EXPLICIT PERMISSION TO POST (IN THAT CASE I'LL ADD APPROPRIATE CITATIONS).

That should do it ;)

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marjorie king
Fri, 2011-02-04 22:19

Joe: Please explain the concept of paragogy to me. Thanks. I am looking forward to reading what you have to say.
Thanks, Dr. King

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Joe Corneli
Sat, 2011-02-05 02:19

In hopefully simple terms (I'll be adding more complex treatments later!), "paragogy" is a theory of peer-to-peer teaching and learning. It isn't "pedagogy" (which means leading or teaching the young), and it isn't "andragogy" (which is an adapted term that means, roughly speaking, teaching adults).

The reason it is different from those theories is that peers have to create the learning context together. We can't assume that the is a designated teacher or leader who is "responsible". Rather, any participant can take the initiative to help improve the learning situation.

Another secondary meaning of the term (if you're into Greek etymology) would be "beside leadership", or something like "taking aside" - in other words, it is different from "demagogy", the leading of people. To be more philosophical: paragogy is a theory of a specifically peer-to-peer "minority" discourse, in distinction to broadcast-based "majority" discourses.

Finally, "paragogy" (παραγωγή) is a Greek word that means "production" or "generation". The "theory" of paragogy aims to be a theory about peer-production, not just peer-to-peer learning.

More details are in the writeup on Wikipedia -- Charlie and I will update throughout the quarter. Feel free to ask further questions or make suggestions!

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marjorie king
Sun, 2011-02-06 19:00

Joe: Thank you for your reply. Would you please give me an example of peer-to-peer teaching and how you expect to evaluate it? We use experienced nurses to act as preceptors to our nursing students. Is that what you mean? How do you decide the qualifications of a peer? Thanks again, Dr. King

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Joe Corneli
Mon, 2011-02-07 04:45

Happy to answer these questions.

I think any P2PU course is an example! (Some better, some worse.) As for how to make these evaluations, quite simply, I think the peers would evaluate the learning experience. Maybe they would say "it would have been better if...", or maybe they would say "I could have done better if..." -- etc.

The theory of paragogy might *help* with the process of evaluation -- I'll say more about this in a moment.

Qualifications of peers are left open: one of the principles stated in paragogy is "peers are equal but different". Equal here doesn't mean "equivalent". Rather, this principle is saying that peer-to-peer learning should be handled in an "egalitarian" manner. Part of the hope is that everyone involved will be learning something. (The question I would ask wouldn't be "who qualifies as a peer?", but rather, "what qualifies as egalitarian?" -- I don't think this is a particularly easy question, but more of an ideal to strive for.)

Not knowing the details of the relationship between the experienced nurses and the nursing students, I can't say "for sure"! I would ask: Do the experienced nurses *see* themselves as peers of the nursing students -- or do they see themselves as mentors? Or both?

Furthermore, do the various parties involved see themselves as responsible for creating or maintaining their shared learning environment? This is perhaps the key way to form an understanding of the role of "peer learners" -- they are co-creators and/or co-custodians of their shared learning environment.

This is also the way I can see "paragogy" being used as an evaluation tool or technique. What I mean is: paragogy is meant to be a theory that describes conditions suitable for (peer-to-peer) learning. If the conditions in a given case aren't suitable, the theory ought to help participants understand and identify why. Thus paragogy can (or at least should) provide some guidance on how to co-create and/or (co-)care-for their learning environment.

I mentioned the principle of egalitarianism, but the other principles can be similarly useful.

BTW, I do think people can be "peer learners" without knowing it or without taking a *conscious* role in co-creating the environment. This is one of the reasons there aren't hard and fast rules about "what makes a peer", but, rather, just some guidelines that are meant to be useful. If the guidelines are in fact useful, then it is a good theory. If not, then the theory needs to be improved or extended.

Please keep the questions coming as the occur to you :)

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marjorie king
Mon, 2011-02-07 21:39

Joe: Thanks for your response. The experienced nurses are preceptors to the students. After reading your comments, I still have great difficulty in understanding your definition of a peer. How can you evaluate the theory if you don't define the word peer? Thanks, Dr. King

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Joe Corneli
Tue, 2011-02-08 01:18

Maybe the theory of "paragogy" could itself be taken as a definition of "peer". Let's give this a try:

"Peer-learning" takes place in conditions where the learning context is open to examination, discussion, and change; where learners can individually or collectively study, critique, and adapt the learning process. Peer learners treat one another in an egalitarian fashion -- in particular, the learning pathway isn't dictated by anyone, but is discovered as the process progresses. In such a setting, learners are able to get what they came for (or figure out why that's impossible).

Another way to come at defining it is to say what it is not. It's not authoritarian - even if someone is an "authority" on a subject. So, for example, I think it's perfectly possible for a professor to be a "peer" of a beginning student, but this is *not* what happens in the typical arrangement of e.g. lectures and assignments. For peer learning to work for these two imagined characters, the professor would have to be learning *with* the student.

The idea of peer learning isn't meant as a "critique" of non-peer-based learning. There are plenty of times when it would be appropriate for a student to learn *from* a professor, or a child to learn *from* a parent, or one friend to learn *from* another friend. We indicated in the paper that it is perfectly acceptable to switch modes - including a didactic teaching mode within what is more broadly a peer-learning experience, or including a peer-learning experience within what is more broadly a "lesson" from an expert.

To sum up: a peer (in this context) is someone who does peer-based learning, a class of activities specified by the theory of paragogy.

For comparison: in "commons-based peer production", a peer is someone who contributes to the common resource (e.g. someone who edits Wikipedia, or even someone who submits a bug report related to a piece of open source software). The contribution may be small but it is the act of making the contribution that matters. Someone who merely reads Wikipedia without editing it isn't contributing to the production process. The main reason Wikipedia is said to be "peer produced" is that it is NOT produced by a firm, and it is NOT produced by buying and selling in a market. It is a loose form of "collaboration".

So, to put it simply, a peer learner is someone who learns in collaboration with others. The "definition" above is just meant to make that more precise. Hopefully this is more comprehensible than last time?

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Celaina Huckeba
Mon, 2011-02-07 22:14

In high school teaching, we have many students in the regular classrooms who are Special Education. A common accommodation for them is peer-paired work environments--meaning, pair them with a stronger student to help them understand the curriculum. I find that sometimes this works when you have the right students mixed together and other times it does not work because the students don't match as 'peers' or the stronger student ends up doing all the work or the Special Education student ends up becoming to reliant on the regular student. However, in a non-sped example, I often times have my honors students pair up and work together on teaching each other information. I'm not sure what the similarities or differences are between pairing students in a classroom and 'peers' are, but I do think that sometimes it is effective to let them learn together and teach each other, instead of hearing it all from the 'sage on the state' aka teacher who is lecturing to them. But again, you do occasionally have to worry that they (the peer learners) are learning/teaching each other information that is incorrect. So do you need to pair them as a strong student and a weak student? Or pair them as like pairs--do 2 weak students equal positive learning? It is confusing.

PS I'm of course applying this all to my environment as a classroom teacher and can recognize that outside the secondary classroom this can all be viewed very differently. But am I on the right track at least with these thoughts?

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Joe Corneli
Tue, 2011-02-08 01:25

Thinking about my new and more detailed description of the idea -- it seems clear that in cases where one student does all the work, the students aren't "really" collaborating.

I think that in a case where a strong student and weak student are paired, you're more likely to find a case of "peer mentoring" than of "peer-learning". In peer learning, you'd tend to see students with *different* strengths coming together -- perhaps to solve a problem of mutual interest. Again, peer learning can include peer mentoring and vice versa -- but if the students are "polarized" as strong/weak, then they aren't really on "egalitarian" footing.

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marjorie king
Wed, 2011-02-09 00:40

Joe: Thanks for your reply. If one cannot explain who a peer is, how does one evaluate if learning has occurred? Dr. King

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Joe Corneli
Wed, 2011-02-09 03:12

By now, I think I have explained who a peer is (or at least I've tried!), but if it's not yet clear I can't have explained it very well, so by all means let's try again -- this time, I think an analogy could help.

Imagine a fishery or a forest. If someone just comes along and harvests fish or wood, they aren't a "peer". If someone comes along with a *company* and asks the employees to harvest fish or wood, the employeers aren't peers. However, if the local citizens get together and come up with some rules and/or infrastructure for how to manage the fishery or the forest (limits on how much can be taken at a time, a layout of timber roads, a fee for using the boat dock, etc.), and they put together some way to enforce these rules -- then I would call these people "peers". Another word would be "commoners".

It would be much the same if instead of a "forestry association" we had a "learning association". Instead of extracting fish or wood, the people involved extract "knowledge". There don't need to be rules about "how much" knowledge can be extracted, but there may still be a need to co-create some rules or infrastructure (a place to meet, a syllabus, etc.). But also, critically, the peers *create* the key resource -- the "learning opportunities". They do this by asking and answering questions, suggesting readings, and so forth.

If all of the learning opportunities exist already in a pre-packaged form, there aren't "peers" but consumers (and producers).

As for evaluating or measuring learning, I see two ways to go about it. The first is to use some sort of outside measurement (in which case it doesn't really matter whether the person is learning from a peer or from a book or from an on-the-job experience, so long as they are learning). The other is some sort of "peer-based assessment" which requires peers to be evaluated by their peers. Clearly you're right that unless we know "who is a peer", that type of evaluation isn't going to be feasible.

But I think in any given case it is going to be fairly clear who the peers are: they are the people who co-create the common learning environment.

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marjorie king
Wed, 2011-02-09 17:06

Joe: Thanks. Dr. King

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Charles Danoff
Mon, 2011-02-14 07:15

Yeah Joe, excellent work synthesizing your theory and making it accessible.

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Charles Danoff
Mon, 2011-02-14 07:49

As an experiment in paragogy I am inviting the class to join me as I try to get my Chinese lesson plan resource ready for publication in print by February 17th. I explain in more detail here: http://p2pu.org/general/node/15138/document/26312

Also, Joe, please correct me if this exercise is actually not an experiment in paragogy.

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Joe Corneli
Mon, 2011-02-14 16:18

Hi Charlie:

It *might* *well* be an exercise in paragogy, but it's not 100% clear what the learning objectives are. These could be added or negotiated in comments to the thread you posted, or some other place. The nature of the experiment itself could be outlined in more detail there as well.

Finally, I'm sorry I haven't posted my own *paragogy* lesson plan - which would help with the design of experiments like this! I'll try to finish that up and post in the next day or two.

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Charles Danoff
Mon, 2011-02-14 20:10

Thanks for the feedback, I'll try to incorporate your suggestions. No worries about not posting the plan, looking forward to it.

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Joe Corneli
Wed, 2011-03-02 01:53

I added a section about evaluation at the end: http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User:Arided/ImplementingParagogy#Conclusi...

My answer might seem like a "cop out", I hope not! Anyway, it is sincerely the most appropriate answer I can come up with...

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Charles Danoff
Wed, 2011-03-02 17:26

I like the self-assessment. There could also be quantitative data coming out, like I learned best when reading at 6 AM for 2 hours, but I only did that 15 times last month, I should do better. Also, I think an external test can also be part of the process, it doesn't have to be one or another. For me with Japanese, I'm going to a free class and studying on my own, happy with my progress. That said, there's no reason I couldn't ALSO sign-up to take the Japanese profciency test http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Language_Proficiency_Test ? At the end of the day, whatever the test said, what would matter more is how I assessed myself 'cause that would be a daily critique to learn as opposed to a once a year thing, but, I guess, it'd be nice to "test" my self-directed paragogically learned knowledge by taking the proficiency test, to see how I'm learning?